The idea is that when the head of a household came to faith, their entire household (family and servants alike) were baptized. At the moment of death the soul of the lost is sent to hell where it is in conscious torment. I believe that each persons sin, while grievous to God, is irrelevant in one sense: that a sinner who is reconciled to God will be considered righteous because of Jesus death on their behalf. They were able to speak in tongues at Pentecost because the Holy Spirit enabled them to do it. Thats a pretty big deal. God is just. Hes not the Father, but Hes just like the Father, and theyre one. Are you as familiar with verse 17 as well? Im Confused: Its something that new believers should do, which is why repent and be baptized are so closely connected in Scripture. I write this because I hope you will listen, and consider what I say, and possibly be spared great difficulty. They considered conversion and baptism two parts of the same process: you became a believer, and you joined the community of believers. I live in the middle of dinosaur country (Colorado, USA) and have seen and touched many dinosaur bones and dinosaur eggs. You need other Christians. Short answer: yes! Its that the Holy Spirit dwells in you, and its much more likely that you were being warned than that you were being tricked. John answered them all, I baptize you with water. His first sin was committing adultery with Bathsheba, Uriah's wife (2 Samuel 11). So, by that thought process you only have to believe on and be saved/go to heaven; then satan and his minions are going to heaven also because the Bible clearly states they believe too. They will live for God, and not for themselves. Ancient Jewish converts and early Christians were baptized for the same reason: to tell the faith community that they a) have come to share their faith, and b) wish to join their community and live out their faith together. Take the time to visit another church or two, to see how they feel to you. #2. In the middle east, they understand what a disciple is. No, Willissathey are not. In all my prayers for all of you, I always pray with joy because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now, being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus. Is the gift of salvation not something you must receive? Thats very meaningful for people like myself, whose earthly father fell short in significant ways. Like I said before, listen carefully then be like a Berean. I want to know if god loves me or not. We went to Disneyland a bunch of times. There will be plenty of people in Hell who recited prayers without being changed, and plenty who were baptized. Because they dont think clearly. Thats why Peter, in Acts 2, told people who wanted to be saved that they should repent and be baptized. You didnt do one without the other. People who persist in sin and refuse to repent are, quite simply, saying NO to Gods offer of salvation. You see, there are a LOT of reasons people dont want to go to church, but theyre not all the same. THAT is obedience. If theres some way I can help, I will help. Let me be frank: I enjoy discussing Bells words. As for your sins, welcome to the club. Nobody likes hypocrisy. This is modalism, as I outline below and its unbiblical. He speaks generally, and raises more questions than he answers. However: if you want to be EFFECTIVE in spreading the word of Christ, youre not going to do it without the church. Think about it like a family. There are consequences, to be surebut I wouldnt suggest that God would punish financial excess by taking out a loan in someone elses name. Im stuck with a dilemma where i read something in an article, ive been water baptized, but no hands were laid on me to receive the Holy Spirit. The first punishment of Gehenna is eternal. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. Will the baby go to heaven if it dies? Im with you: confident that God will help you. I am worried about the end of times. Then, like magic, you wont be guilty. On the topic of baptism, you again pick and choose a few verses, but fail to include other verses that apply. Ive dealt with this situation a number of times in the past, and it has always ended in one of two ways: heartbreak or disaster. Do you think god was watching over us that day, and still is? Sometimes its due to ignorance, and sometimes it due to a difference in perspective. If so, you are my brother. It could happen to all of us. Theres a lot we dont know about what happens after we die, as the Bible isnt really very clear about it. That is, however, the wrong standard. As for condemning anyone, thats not my job or yours. Here are a few verses worthy of consideration: The thief wasnt saved under the Mosaic law, because keeping the law could not save. What people miss not knowing the Scriptures is that the Old Testament is chock full of Gods other side. They only have one side of the story! This is a reply to your answer starting with: >> Do the rules change about sin or have we gotten the whole Gay and Christian thing wrong? I always cared about what others think ever since I was a small child and dealt with vanity too. For the record, the word Lucifer only appears in the King James Bibleand then only one time. We have to be persuaded that God exists, and that Hes trustworthy and then we have to commit to trusting Him. Thanks! Its easy to see Gods negative side in the Old Testament, with things like the flood, and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the ground swallowing up a bunch of Israelites. - Ian Nov 28, 2011 at 12:42 @Richard: Among others, this is the Catholic position on baptism. What youve written is so vastly different from Christianity, Im having a hard time believing that you believe what you say you believe. Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. That doesnt mean that He likes everything, obviously. Christ's Blood Saves Babies. Rather than criticizing them for criticizing you, I would suggest another way. This is a common concern, as many Christians want to make sure theyre doing things as God intends. News. Unless one believes that non-Christians can receive the Spirit, this should settle the issue on whether one must be baptized to be saved. You are free to be baptized if you wish, but it could mean a lot to not be baptized against their wishes, or behind their backs. Youre welcome to continue the conversation, Andreas. Music is good. What happens to unbaptized infants when they die? - Answers We are therefore Christs ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. There will be no unfairness or injustice in Gods decision. But im just not sure what to think of him as. Theres no need for you to be afraid of God. What makes you think theres a Heaven at all? The truth is that some people wont be in Heaven. Paul uses this word in several places, but with relationships. The church is all Christians, all over the world, throughout history. Would you mind sharing the story about why you wanted to ask it? Ask Him to help you, and He will. They are raised with the idea that being a Plain Christian and just having Jesus in their Heart will get them to Heaven, i say there is so much more to be in Faith with Christ. That means that our worship must come from the heart (not just going through the motions) and that our worship must be based on what God is really like. Im going to tell you something that may be hard to hear, Hannah. Please answer me im scared.. And tell me how to change myself to be a good chrstian.. And please tell me that youre not going to say that i cant idolized them cause theyre my inspiration? Jesus talked about that in John 3. Trust the Holy Spirit to do the real work in her heartyou just love her and tell her whats on your mind. If you feel that your relationship with your grandparents is strong enough for a bit of push-back, heres what I might do. Im going to ask for your opinion.Why do YOU think iniquity was found in Lucifer?And why do YOU think Lucifer rebelled against God if he knew he would have no chance to dethrone God the Father?And what would you do IF Lucifer Ever DETHRONED God The Father which Im not saying that he will.But what would you do?! It tells me that you want to go to Heaven, and that youre willing to find out how. When someone decides to follow a teacher, they make a permanent, lifetime commitment to follow that teacher and obey them, no matter what. In John 3, Jesus told Nicodemus that we must be born again to go to Heaven. So if you havent being baptized yet, my encouragement to you is you must get baptize. If so, then nobody could go to Heaven. Only those who submit to God will end up in Heaven. Jesus paid the penalty for all sin, for all people, for all time. Heres the video: Daniel Wallace, one of the foremost experts on the Bible, has a full session on the reliability of the Bible. Do you think He would agree with your assessment of how the universe works? At this point in time, nobody is in Heaven or Hell. I also believe God led me to this church. A careful examination of the Scriptures is required, and THAT is what I recommend on GodWords, again and again and again and again. It was a heartbreaking tragedy. He was an investigator, specializing in cold cases that nobody else could solve. Theres nothing wrong with having doubts and asking questions. That leads some to believe that the Father, Son, and Spirit are exactly the same. Its been a topic of debate for hundreds of years, and I dont believe anyone can settle the matter. I want to get to a point where I believe this religion and I chose this religion for myself. Does that make sense?. You may be surprised at the answer: Sin isnt what sends people to Hell, so its not the disobedient who go there. What if were very bad when were young, but we wise up and become very good when were older? I appreciate your honesty. You can be saved right now. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God not by works, so that no one can boast. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God. He has a mind and emotions and gives us gifts and fellowships with us, for example. All of the people Ive known over the years who have said the same kind of thing. When we show love to others, we are being like God. In traditional Christian theology, Limbo is the place where the souls of unbaptized babies, young children and virtuous individuals who lived prior to the coming of Jesus Christ will reside until the resurrection. Everything that happens each day is because Christ already laid it out before the foundation of the world. Have a great day! Jesus is awesome and a forgiving heavenly father. He taught His disciples to serve, rather than be served. God is wrathful. If someone ends up in Hell, it wont be by accident. We dont often appreciate the fact that God that is, Father and Son and Spirit share all of the same attributes. It has to do with money, as with balancing your checkbook, or making sure you got the right change after you buy something. Sir Tony may the almighty God grant you more grace and the anointing to continue the good work. You say You cant deny this, as its Scripture! Well, show me. You choose your own path in life. A teacher teaches, right? As I said above, Bell raises more questions than he answers. Youre very kind, Clint. I got baptized for a selfish reason. Well, that would indeed be unfair. Theres no sin that Jesus did not pay for. I hope to answer you as simply as I can, without leaving out any important parts. God would not make you pay the penalty that Jesus paid for you! If a serial killer believes and has faith in God and commits every sin in the world such as hitler, he will get into heaven. You had to buy their tickets, at their prices, and you had to show up during the hours when they were open or you would remain in the parking lot all by yourself. Im scared, my anxiety is bad, and Im scared ill never see my grandma or my Lord ever in the afterlife, and I wonder. We feel satisfied, but still feel incomplete. Its not as if being baptized in the wrong church will hurt youtheyre just witnessing you getting wet. When I read it, it seems pretty scary. Wrong? You and I can both know whether well make it to Heaven. That makes our relationship with them more difficult strained, rather than peaceful and harmonious. When a Catholic marries an unbaptized person, even in a Catholic ceremony, the Catholic spouse is not conferring the sacrament of matrimony on the non-Christian spouse. Thank you for your kind words. Gods instructions, which are to be obeyed, seem to be of a few varieties. CHRISTIANITY Let me know if theres more I can do for you. (Mark 1:8). How can it be for us to get into heaven by faith alone but yet can get away with anything? It is just so confusing because why would someone go to a place that they arent even sure exists and be punished so severely for their personal beliefs? If you need help, I will help you. The question of exactly what happens after we die is still largely unanswered. Its not wrong to say Him, even though the one God is three distinct persons. We dunk fabric in water and dye, and pull it up to see if the fabric has changed color. And who made the world.? Baptism is important, but so is your witness to your parents. Many years ago, when I was 7 years old, I went to the altar and asked God to save me, I do not remember how long after that that I began to have doubts about whether or not I was truly saved. I agree that we who are born again will be with Jesus after we die. Baptism is simply a public ceremony where you tell some of the Christians where you live that youve decided to follow Jesus. You appear to base this confidence on the idea that youre a good person that the suffering youve endured is greater than the suffering youve caused. I still consider myself a Christian, because I believe in Jesus and what hes done for me and Im trying to follow what God wants for my life by following the 10 commandments and things like the Beattitudes, but I cant quite become baptized. I honestly cant tell if youre trolling me. I dont have religion but it seems to me that he saves those who NEED saving. Since you clearly state you baptize based on Matthew 28, please re-read and take notice that this verse is written in the singular not the plural, and I quote (from KJV Matthew 28:19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Its a big deal to be baptized, and he didnt want anyone putting their life in danger unless they understood what Jesus requires of us. She got the point. Dont fall for ideas that seem to make sense of the trinity but contradict what we see in Scripture. As for your post, Ill try to reply simply, but without being too short. Unfortunately, thats not necessarily good enough to convince anyone. First, thank you for your kind words. >> The problem is new theology or beliefs that get away from the traditions taught. If you have vomiting along with diarrhea, you lose even more fluids and minerals. Well I want to do me and do my own thing instead. All three have always existed, eternally. In John 3:5 Jesus tells Nicodemus, Except a man be born of the WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he CANNOT enter into the kingdom of God. I can try to be the right person, but I will fail on my own. Acts 2:38 Repent (turn away from sin), and be baptized every one of you in the NAME of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. It seems clear that nobody will be sent to Heaven or Hell, under normal circumstances, until the end of time. One example is Acts 10. Does that make sense? This is an area Ive been looking forward to studying in greater detail, to be sure of what the Bible does and doesnt say. If we follow His teachings than we will become His children. Reading the Bible will help you trust God better, since youll understand Him and His plan better. Which Jesus kept but on Saturday not Sunday. Because of this, there is no disagreement between them. PLEASE Give me some reassuring answers. You and I may not meet here, but we will meet there if you belong to God. When we die, it seems that the breath of life leaves us, turning us back into basically earth. Why? Eating pork I can prevent easilly. Answer: It's possible with God's providence (Matt. The trouble is that we have no idea when that will actually happen. According to Jesus, Abrahams response was that even something as incredible as someone coming back from the dead would not be enough to convince those who do not want to be convinced. The rich man also died and was buried. Let me know if you have any questions. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. Then it looks like the sin of being Gay is for God to punish. Your brain stops. Thank you, Mer. If baptism is something we do because we understand God and what He wants from us, then we should all be baptized over and over as we learn more about Him. Not like being healthy and rich, but like being joyful and satisfied and turning into the person you were created to become. It was a fairly common occurrence, and brought joy to the community of faith. You might have said to a friend, I read this guys blog the other day. Thats a relationship, but its not much. He said no, I said why, is he lying, isnt he a father.? The point is that I understand your desire to stay here. What is our part? I never was able to finish it once I realize that it was another judgement day dream so I would force myself to wake up. You can only accept it or reject it. Instead, I use the term Satan. Another is an agnostic. The Bible explains this: we share some of Gods character, which is why we can be so incredible but we often choose to do things our own way, on our own, for selfish reasons. Second, baptism is something you do 1) after you trust God with your life, 2) in a public ceremony, 3) to show the community of faith that you believe like they do and want to join them. We shouldnt sin. The opposite. I cant see into your heart, and I cant see into Gods mind. God has done His part, but we have to do ours. New believers are baptized to show other Christians that theyve decided to trust God with their lives. Thats a beautiful thing, Mer! His only requirement was their faith and acceptance. These are very personal decisions. Jesus told a story where a son who did pretty much everything wrong. Did you know that JESUS will be judging us? It also doesnt say to not be baptized in the blood of an anteater, or that you should (or shouldnt) have your pets baptized. They have to trust God with their life. Baptism doesnt wash off your sins. Did Jesus not sin because he is God and God cant sin due to being perfect or was he just different from all the rest of humanity in some way? I would recommend the non-confrontational approach. Hes not that at all. The Holy Spirit will do a lot of that on the inside of us, and you should always listen to Him. What do I mean by that? I hope that youll choose to trust God with your life not just a little, but completely. 3. Heres a pretty good one: sin is purposely disobeying a known law of God by a morally responsible person. But: if all sins are forgiven, why will anybody go to Hell? If you have suffered more than the suffering you have caused and believe yourself to be a good person ( in this case; Righteousness doesnt equal good. If you cant or if you currently dont have a local community of Jesus-followers that you spend time with then its okay to wait until you CAN be baptized. Other vital organs, including your kidneys and liver, stop. Fever. Thanks. I feel like I am tricking people that church is for me when I go to church but really I dont feel like that. It has nothing to do with the old covenant God made with the ancient Israelites, as this behavior is also condemned in the New Testament under the new covenant. Id like to think that Justice is based on much more than devotion, but I dont feel I have the right judging others Its not my place. Each of those could be a separate comment on their own, but Ill try to address the big idea first. Let God do the pressuring. You show wisdom here, and its nice to see it. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. All throughout Scripture, we see that they are not the same person. Thats what oneness theology is: a tradition of men that contradicts the Word of God. I get what you mean when you said that they didnt want God in their life, so they didnt have Him in their afterlife either, but doesnt that sound wrong for them to end up with Lucifer in Hell? This is the plan to expand the reign of the kingdom of God. Every Christian should be baptized. Christianity talks about being good, too (more on that below) but God doesnt bring us to Heaven because were good. >> people on here are not wrong they view things different to you. Have you been born again? highest level clan in coc 2020; what happens to unbaptized adults when they die. When we decide to trust God with our lives, we are born again. When we die, we will be with God foreverfirst in Heaven, then on a new, recreated earth. Augustine begins: We see that . I was told before that sin was bad, but I still commuted it, as I forgot about the will of God. Also, if youre able, Id love to hear how the conversation goes! I think theyre being silly, and given the right opportunity I might actually tell them so. News stories, speeches, letters and notices. Some of Her greatest Saints have disagreed on this issue: St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, for example, came to different conclusions. Serve God in all you do, and you can learn what you were created for. The Limbo of Infants (Latin limbus infantium or limbus puerorum) is the hypothetical permanent status of the unbaptised who die in infancy, too young to have committed actual sins, but not having been freed from original sin.. Why do unbaptized babies go to Limbo? God. He expounds on the value of the scrutiny and the reason for the prayer of exorcism for a person who is unbaptized . They love equally. Other dehydration causes include: Diarrhea, vomiting. But it seems to me now after taking in the comments of this thread and your answer, that gays have only two options to go to heaven on these premise. Its important to do your best to live like Jesus, but dont beat yourself up when you mess up. This might not describe you. Is it possible that you could trust that the Father really IS good because Jesus really IS good? However: if you do fit into that category, I have good news. Thanks for asking! If youre already a follower Jesus that is, if youve already been born again I recommend that you find some people in your area who follow Jesus closely, and be baptized. God made the world; therefore this clearly states that God and Jesus are One. Did you catch that? Youll want to find some other people near you who follow Jesus closely. The main confusion that I see is that youre not convinced that the Father and Son and Spirit are all ONE GOD. I now understand that I can never become the man I was intended to be under my own power. I was very surprised. Have a great day! Even if I have earphones on, they would want to hear what Im listening to. Clearly, they are not. However: I say under normal circumstances for a reason, and youve caught it. Until you sit on the chair, youre not actually trusting it to hold you up. If anyone is born again, I would recommend that they be baptized as a sign to their community of faith. A person can be baptized, be Orthodox, go to Church and participate in the Sacraments, be outwardly pious - but all this just favors one's salvation and gives hope for a good outcome. Next, we should ask who decides who gets into Heaven?. If life is getting tough to manage, youre probably doing it wrong. Feelings change, but truth does not. Was that a temporary thing, or a longer-term thing? The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. Are you born again? If you dont have a Bible, you can definitely find one online. Its okay to not be baptized if your parents forbid it. My experience is very clear in this regard. 28:18-20; CCC 848). You are also not Alex Malarkey (made famous by the book The Boy Who Came Back From Heaven). I Kept addressing them as separate entities, praying to the father in the name of Jesus, his son. I grew up in a church that was Pentecostal, and have been a leader in different churches, and have seen that those in the Pentecostal movement are sometimes more concerned with feeling spiritual and with having spiritual experiences than they are with knowing and living the gospel. Its a public declaration of your faithnot to God, but to a community of Jesus-followers. God also puts us to work, helping other people learn to trust Him. Its good that you want to be baptized, and I understand your frustration with your parents. I dont believe that you believe that. Baptism is kind of like making a speech. that was so rude what u just say that and who ever u say that too ; jesus is watching ?????? Youve asked some good questions. God forgives us for turning our backs to Him and doing things our own way.