Single x64 ISO - OK - Works and install.esd found by Setup - all Editions listed Dual 32+64 ISO - FAIL - Did not find install.esd file (either 64 or 32) \x64\sources\ and \x32\sources in ISO UEFI64 Boot: Single x64 ISO - FAIL - 'No boot file found by UEFI' ' Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI!' Does the iso boot from s VM as a virtual DVD? Most of modern computers come with Secure Boot enabled by default, which is a requirement for Windows 10 certification process. and select the efisys.bin from desktop and save the .iso Now the Minitool.iso should boot into UEFI with Ventoy. I'll test it on a real hardware a bit later. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. Can't try again since I upgraded it using another method. I you want to spare yourself some setup headaches, take a USB crafted as a Ventoy or SG2D USB that contains KL ISO files, directly. Shim silently loads any file signed with its embedded key, but shows a signature violation message upon loading another file, asking to enroll its hash or certificate. The thing is, the Windows injection that Ventoy usse can be applied to an extracted ISO (i.e. Which brings us nicely to what this is all about: Mitigation. I've been trying to do something I've done a milliion times before: This has always worked for me. I also hope that the people who are adamant about never disabling Secure Boot do realize that, as it stands, the current version of Ventoy leaves them about as exposed as if Secure Boot was disabled, which of course isn't too great Thankfully, this can be fixed so that, even when using Ventoy, Secure Boot can continue to fulfill the purpose it was actually designed for. Yet, that is technically what Ventoy does if you enrol it for Secure Boot, as it makes it look like any bootloader, that wasn't signed by Microsoft, was signed by Microsoft. VMware or VirtualBox) Then Ventoy will load without issue if the secure boot is enabled in the BIOS. Don't get me wrong, I understand your concerns and support your position. So it is pointless for Ventoy to only boot Secure EFI files once the user has 'whitelisted' it. New version of Rescuezilla (2.4) not working properly. unsigned .efi file still can not be chainloaded. Yes. No bootfile found for UEFI! GRUB mode fixed it! Does the iso boot from s VM as a virtual DVD? yes, but i try with rufus, yumi, winsetuptousb, its okay. KANOTIX uses a hybrid ISO layout, it definitely has X64 UEFI in ISO9660 and FAT12 (usually 1MiB offset). Remove Ventoy secure boot key. How to make sure that only valid .efi file can be loaded. check manjaro-gnome, not working. Ventoy just create a virtual cdrom device based on the ISO file and chainload to the bootx64.efi/shim.efi inside the ISO file. PS: It works fine with original ventoy release (use UEFIinSecureBoot) when Secure boot is enabled. Windows 11 21h2 x64 Hebrew - Successfully tested on UFEI. https://nyancat.fandom.com/wiki/MEMZ_Nyan_Cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mv6Cbew_y8&t=1m13s. same here on ThinkPad x13 as for @rderooy If everything is fine, I'll prepare the repo, prettify the code and write detailed compilation and usage instructions, as well as help @ventoy with integration. Already on GitHub? ventoy_x64.efi/ventoy_util_x64.efi ) , they do need digital signatures. Again, detecting malicious bootloaders, from any media, is not a bonus. I assume that file-roller is not preserving boot parameters, use another iso creation tool. And for good measure, clone that encrypted disk again. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI! Turned out archlinux-2021.06.01-x86_64 is not compatible. @ventoy I can confirm this, using the exact same iso. I have installed Ventoy on my USB and I have added ISO file: "Win10SupperLite_TeamOS_Edition.iso" Google for how to make an iso uefi bootable for more info. error was now displayed in 1080p. Can you add the exactly iso file size and test environment information? your point) and you also want them to actually do their designated job, including letting you know, if you have Secure Boot enabled, when some third party UEFI boot loader didn't pass Secure Boot validation, even if that boot loader will only ever be run from someone who has to have physical access to your computer in the first place. Hi, Hiren's Boot CD can be booted by Ventoy in Memdisk mode, you try Ventoy 1.0.08 beta2. Perform a scan to check if there are any existing errors on the USB. But of course, it's your choice to pick what you think is best for your users and the above is just one opinion on the matter. It does not contain efi boot files. Download non-free firmware archive. BIOS Mode Both Partition Style GPT Disk . I didn't add an efi boot file - it already existed; I only referenced You signed in with another tab or window. This means current is UEFI mode. Level 1. By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and puedes poner cualquier imagen en 32 o 64 bits evrything works fine with legacy mode. Adding an efi boot file to the directory does not make an iso uefi-bootable. slitaz-next-180716.iso, Symantec.Ghost.Boot.CD.12.0.0.10658.x64.iso, regular-xfce-latest-x86_64.iso - 1.22 GB Have a question about this project? Best Regards. if it's possible please add UEFI support for this great distro. Thanks a lot. So it is impossible to get these ISOs to work with ventoy without enabling legacy support in the bios settings? This solution is only for Legacy BIOS, not UEFI. Acronis True Image 2020 24.6.1 Build 25700 in Legacy is working in Memdisk mode on 1.0.08 beta 2 but on another older Version of Acronis 2020 sometimes is boot's up but the most of the time he's crashing after loading acronis loader text. You need to make the ISO UEFI64 bootable. DokanMounter
The only way to prevent misuse when booting from USB is to set a BIOS password (and perhaps a boot password), set the BIOS to not boot from USB and it won't hurt to also use an encrypted filesystem for the OS on the hard disk (bitlocker/LUKS). I am just resuming my work on it. Sign in if you want can you test this too :) That is to say, a WinPE.iso or ubuntu.iso file can be booted fine with secure boot enabled(even no need for the user to whitelist them) but it may contain a malicious application in it. Boots, but unable to find its own files; specifically, does not find boot device and waits user input to find its root device. Option1: Use current solution(Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk), then user will be clearly told that, in this case, the secure boot will be by passed. Now Rufus has achieved support for secure boot as now NTFS:UEFI Driver is signed for secure boot by Microsoft. Guid For Ventoy With Secure Boot in UEFI All the .efi/kernel/drivers are not modified. fdisk: Create a primary partition with partition type EFI (FAT-12/16/32). For secure boot please refer Secure Boot . Remain what in the install program Ventoy2Disk.exe . I have the same error, I can boot from the same usb, the same iso file and the same Ventoy on asus vivobook but not on asus ROG. Win10_21H2_BrazilianPortuguese_x64.iso also boots fine in Legacy mode on IdeaPad 300 with Ventoy 1.0.57. Reply. openSUSE-Tumbleweed-KDE-Live-x86_64-Snapshot20200326-Media.iso - 952MB Boots, but cannot find root device. However what currently happens is that people who do have Secure Boot enabled will currently not be alerted to these at all. /s. Currently when boot the ISO file failed as a Virtual CDROM, Ventoy will try to parse the grub configuration file inside the ISO file and try to boot it direclty with. and reboot.pro.. and to tinybit specially :) @MFlisar Hiren's Boot CD was down with UEFI (legacy still has some problem), manjaro-kde-20.0-rc3-200422-linux56.iso BOOT Follow the guide below to quickly find a solution. In a fit of desperation, I tried another USB drive - this one 64GB instead of 8GB. @chromer030 hello. Ventoy has added experimental support for IA32 UEFI since v1.0.30. Unable to boot properly. This could be due to corrupt files or their PC being unable to support secure boot. 5. extservice
This will disable validation policy override, making Secure Book work as desired: it will load only signed files (+ files signed with SHIM MOK key). Maybe we should just ask the user 'This file is not signed by Microsoft for 'Secure Boot' - do you still wish to boot from it?' I will give more clear warning message for unsigned efi file when secure boot is enabled. if the, When the user is away, clone the encrypted disk and replace their existing CPU with the slightly altered model (after making sure to clone the CPU serial). due to UEFI setup password in a corporate laptop which the user don't know. To add Ventoy to Easy2Boot v2, download the latest version of Ventoy Windows .ZIP file and drag-and-drop the Ventoy zip file onto the \e2b\Update agFM\Add_Ventoy.cmd file on the 2nd agFM partition. TinyCorePure64-13.1.iso does UEFI64 boot OK And if you somehow let bootloaders that shouldn't be trusted through, such as unsigned ones, then it means your whole chain of trust is utterly broken, because there simply cannot even exist a special case for "USB" vs "something else". And they can boot well when secure boot is enabled, because they use bootmgr.efi directly from Windows iso. About Fuzzy Screen When Booting Window/WinPE, Ventoy2Disk.exe can't enumerate my USB device. Maybe I can provide 2 options for the user in the install program or by plugin. 6. How to Perform a Clean Install of Windows 11. I would say that it probably makes sense to first see what LoadImage()/StarImage() let through in an SB enabled environment (provided that this is what Ventoy/GRUB uses behind the scenes, which I'm not too sure about), and then decide if it's worth/possible to let users choose to run unsigned bootloaders. For instance, if you produce digitally signed software for Windows, to ensure that your users can validate that when they run an application, they can tell with certainty whether it comes from you or not, you really don't want someone to install software on the user computer that will suddenly make applications that weren't signed by you look as if they were signed by you. Option 3: only run .efi file with valid signature. ventoy maybe the image does not support x64 uefidibujo del sistema nervioso y sus partes para nios ventoy maybe the image does not support x64 uefi. en_windows_10_business_editions_version_1909_updated_april_2020_x64_dvd_aa945e0d.iso | 5 GB, en_windows_10_business_editions_version_2004_x64_dvd_d06ef8c5.iso | 5 GB Google for how to make an iso uefi bootable for more info. Yes, I already understood my mistake. 1.0.84 UEFI www.ventoy.net ===>
Getting the same error as @rderooy. I can 3 options and option 3 is the default. Also tested on Lenovo IdeaPad 300 16GB OK (UEFI64). size: 589 (617756672 byte) This means current is 32bit UEFI mode. https://abf.openmandriva.org/platforms/cooker/products/4/product_build_lists/3250 It . Again, I think it is very fair to say that, if you use use Ventoy on a Secure Boot enabled system, and you went through Ventoy Secure Boot enrolment, they you expect that ISOs that aren't Secure Boot compliant will be reported, as they would with other means of using them on that system. I found that on modern systems (those not needing legacy boot) that using the GPT boot partition version (UEFI) only is a lot more reliable. If that was the case, I would most likely sign Ventoy for my SHIM (provided it doesn't let through unsigned bootloaders when Secure Boot is enabled, which is the precise issue we are trying to solve) since, even if it's supposed to be a competitor of Rufus, I think it's a very nice solution and I'm always more than happy to direct people who would like to have a multiboot version of Rufus to use Ventoy instead. Code that is subject to such a license that has already been signed might have that signature revoked. I checked and they don't work. And of course, people expect that if they run UEFIinSecureBoot or similar software, whose goal is explicitly stated as such, it will effectively remove Secure Boot. @steve6375 Link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/5zui8pq5p0p9zug/Windows10_SuperLite_TeamOS_Edition.iso/file privacy statement. Background Some of us have bad habits when using USB flash drive and often pull it out directly. Intel Sunrise Point-LP, Intel Kaby Lake-R, @chromer030 Your favorite, APorteus was done with legacy & UEFI @steve6375 Okay thanks. I can provide an option in ventoy.json for user who want to bypass secure boot. Do I still need to display a warning message? I have a solution for this. By the way, since I do want to bring that message home for people who might be tempted to place a bit too much trust in TPMs, disk encryption and Secure Boot, what the NSA would most likely do, if they wanted to access your encrypted disk data on an x86 PC, is issue a secret executive order to Intel or AMD, to design special version of the CPU they need, where the serial can be altered programmatically (so that they can clone the serial from the original CPU in case the TPM checks it) and that includes additional logic and EPROM to detect and store the critical data (such as disk decryption keys) when accessed. pentoo-full-amd64-hardened-2020.0_p20200527.iso - 4 GB, avg_arl_cdi_all_120_160420a12074.iso - 178 MB, Fedora-Security-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20200419.n.0.iso - 1.80 GB No idea what's wrong with the sound lol. The best workaround is to install some Linux variant (I use Fedora but Ubuntu and SUSE are supported) and install VirtualBox. You can have BIOS with TPM and disk encryption and, provided your hardware manufacturer implements anti tampering protection to ensure that the TPM is not sharing data it shouldn't share with parts of the system that should not be trusted, it should be no less secure than TPM-based encryption on a Secure Boot enabled system. Any ideas? Some commands in Ventoy grub can modify the contents of the ISO and must be disabled for users to use on their own under secure boot. And we've already been over whether USB should be treated differently than internal SATA or NVMe (which, in your opinion it should, and which in mine, and I will assert the majority of people who enable Secure Boot, it shouldn't). Just create a FAT32 partition, change its label to ARCH_YYYYMM (fill in the ISO's date, now it would be ARCH_202109) and extract the Arch ISO to it. I remember that @adrian15 tried to create a sets of fully trusted chainload chains to be used in Super GRUB2 Disk. It looks like that version https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.33 fixes issue with my thinkpad. Sign in @ventoy So all Ventoy's behavior doesn't change the secure boot policy. You answer my questions and then I will answer yours MEMZ.img was listed with no changes for me. Please follow About file checksum to checksum the file. I didn't try install using it though. P.S. I've hacked-up PreLoader once again and managed to cleanly chainload Ubuntu ISO with Secure Boot enabled. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI." UEFI64 Bootfile \EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi is present. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk over and over, you just need to copy the ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD (x)/EFI. @BxOxSxS Please test these ISO files in Virtual Machine (e.g. Ventoy supports both BIOS Legacy and UEFI, however, some ISO files do not support UEFI mode. ", same error during creating windows 7 If Secure Boot is not enabled, proceed as normal. Is there a way to force Ventoy to boot in Legacy mode? Copyright Windows Report 2023. V4 is legacy version. https://osdn.net/projects/manjaro/storage/kde/, https://abf.openmandriva.org/platforms/cooker/products/4/product_build_lists/3250, https://abf.openmandriva.org/product_build_lists, chromeos_14816.99.0_reven_recovery_stable-channel_mp-v2.bin, https://github.com/rescuezilla/rescuezilla/releases/download/2.4/rescuezilla-2.4-64bit.jammy.iso, https://nyancat.fandom.com/wiki/MEMZ_Nyan_Cat, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mv6Cbew_y8&t=1m13s, https://mega.nz/folder/TI8ECBKY#i89YUsA0rCJp9kTClz3VlA. Yeah to clarify, my problem is a little different and i should've made that more clear. and leave it up to the user. Fix them with this tool: If the advices above haven't solved your issue, your PC may experience deeper Windows problems. As Ventoy itself is not signed with Microsoft key. The current release of Slax (slax-64bit-11.2.1.iso) fails to boot using UEFI64 using ventoy with the error message: Some bioses have a bug. I'm not sure how Ventoy can make use of that boot process, because, in a Secure Boot enabled environment, all UEFI:NTFS accomplishes is that it allows you to chain load a Secure Boot signed UEFI boot loader from an NTFS partition, and that's it. I tested live GeckoLinux STATIC Plasma 152 (based on openSUSE) with ventoy-1.0.15. They boot from Ventoy just fine. ***> wrote: Anything Debian-based fails to boot for me across two computers and several versions of Ventoy. Is it valid for Ventoy to be able to run user scripts, inject user files into Linux/Windows ram disks, change .cfg files in 'secure' ISOs, etc. So thanks a ton, @steve6375! For these who select to bypass secure boot. My guesd is it does not. Error : @FadeMind 2. . The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: I believe GRUB (at least v2.04 and previous versions if patched with Fedora patches) already work exactly as you've described. Just found that MEMZ.iso from https://mega.nz/folder/TI8ECBKY#i89YUsA0rCJp9kTClz3VlA works, file: Windows XP.ver.SP3.English I rarely get any problems with other menu systems based on grub2\grub4dos\syslinux\isolinux, just Ventoy gives problems. However, I'm not sure whether chainloading of shims are allowed, and how it would work if you try to load for example Ubuntu when you already have Fedora's shim loaded. DiskGenius
I really fail to fathom how people here are disputing that if someone agrees to enroll Ventoy in a Secure Boot environment, it only means that they agree to trust the Ventoy application, and not that they grant it the right to just run whatever bootloader anybody will now be able to throw at their computer through Ventoy (which may very well be a malicious bootloader ran by someone who is not the owner of that computer but who knows or hopes that the user enrolled Ventoy). I'll fix it. WinPE10_8_Sergei_Strelec_x86_x64_2019.12.28_English.iso BOOT but Custom launcher cannot open custom path and unable access to special apps. So maybe Ventoy also need a shim as fedora/ubuntu does. Yes. 6. Select the images files you want to back up on the USB drive and copy them. It's what Secure Boot is designed to do on account of being a trust chain mechanism that, when enabled, MUST alert if trust is broken. But Ventoy currently does. Delete or rename the \EFI folder on the VTOYEFI partition 2 of the Ventoy drive. There are many other applications that can create bootable disks but Ventoy comes with its sets of features. EndeavourOS_Atlantis_neo-21_5.iso boots OK using UEFI64 on Ventoy and grubfm. Ubuntu.iso). By the way, this issue could be closed, couldn't it? It supports x86 Legacy BIOSx86 Legacy BIOS,x86_64 UEFIx86_64 UEFI, ARM64 UEFI, IA32 UEFI and MIPS64EL UEFI. Its ok. Ventoy will search all the directories and sub directories recursively to find all the iso files and list them in the boot menu. These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. Do I still need to display a warning message? Now, if Microsoft finally relinquished their abusive policy about not accepting GPLv3 code for Secure Boot signing and Ventoy was updated not to allow unsigned bootloaders when Secure Boot is enabled (i.e. Secure Boot is supported since Ventoy-1.0.07, please use the latest version and see the Notes. So maybe Ventoy also need a shim as fedora/ubuntu does. see http://tinycorelinux.net/13.x/x86_64/release/ also for my friend's at OpenMandriva *waaavvvveee* Just like what is the case with Ventoy, I don't have much of an issue with having some leeway, on account that implementing proper signature validation requires some effort, during which unsigned bootloaders may be accepted, so as not inconvenience users too much. Thank you For example, Ventoy can be modified to somehow chainload full chain of distros shim grub kernel, or custom validation functions could be made, which would, for example, validate and accept files signed with certificates in DB + a set of custom certificates (like ones embedded in distros' Shims), or even validate and automatically extract Shims embedded certificates and override EFI validation functions (as it's done currently to completely disable validation), but is this kind of complexity worth it for a USB boot utility which is implemented to be simple and convenient?
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